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Steve Retsky's avatar

Oh Joe, you ol' rabble rouser. We've been through enough experience with NAMI to know the best way to deal with the delusional is just to agree with them and they will simply forget and go on to their next rant. As far as those that believe those delusional ramblings, perhaps Monterey (and even Pacific Grove) are better out without their visits. Let them visit more up-right places, like Las Vegas!

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Joe Livernois's avatar

Rousing rabble is an odd thing to do, I suppose.

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Fred Hernandez's avatar

I’m trying real hard to not snicker at a buffoon named Hung Cow. Well-endowed bovines have no business wading into the wicked wickedness of Wiccans.

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Tim Thomas's avatar

Also, Mr. Cao, needs to get his history correct! Lover's Point was never called, “Lovers of Christ Point.” That's a myth. It was always "Lovers Point" the name comes from a late 19th century novel where two lovers meet at the point!

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Joe Livernois's avatar

Maybe I do too. I checked with the Monterey County Historical Society to verify, but I'll *always* defer to Tim! https://mchsmuseum.com/local-history/historic-places/pacific-grove/

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Joe Livernois's avatar

When I was trying to figure this out as a reporter, I was told that "Lovers" was not possessive because it was originally call Lovers of Jesus.

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Joe Livernois's avatar

Thanks for this. I shoulda known Elmarie Dyke was involved somehow!

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Joe Livernois's avatar

Whoops. I mistakenly deleted your comment Gin Donohoo! Sorry.

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Gin Donohoo's avatar

Once a "myth" is in black and white it is self-perpetuating.

Years ago, Monterey Public Librarian Jeanne McCombs (who lived in PG until her death 2021) researched the name of Lovers Point extensively, and wrote an article that was published in the Pacific Grove Heritage Society's publication "Board & Batten" debunking the myth of the word Jesus in the name of Lovers Point. Librarian Jeanne McComb's extensive research found the original name "Lovers Point" in print many times for decades before the word "Jesus" was attached to it.

(Mr.) Pat Hathaway told me that as a teen, Elmarie Dyke was like a surrogate grandmother to him and that prim & proper Elmarie (a Methodist and a school teacher) was not fond of the name Lovers Point thus she added the word "Jesus" to the point's name. Elmarie Dyke aka Mrs. Pacific Grove!

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Katy Rankin's avatar

I take offense that he would be given a key to the city…. Now maybe some of us would consider a … itchy rash that will last awhile…

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Arden Eaton's avatar

As a Pagrovian, I just can't stop laughing ... hahahahahahahahaha

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Jean Vengua's avatar

What?!! LOL!!! I happen to know several local Wiccans (not to mention Rotarians), and they are fine, upstanding, gods-fearing people.

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cindy grundy's avatar

Hilarious! Thanks Joe 😂

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